Comments on: Politics and Rhetoric – Part 1 http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/cosmos/earth/2008/10/rhetoric1.html Welcome to the Nebula Fri, 06 Jan 2012 09:44:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Tony Gravagno http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/cosmos/earth/2008/10/rhetoric1.html/comment-page-1#comment-299 Tony Gravagno Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:34:48 +0000 http://Nebula-RnD.com/blog/cosmos/earth/2008/10/rhetoric1.html#comment-299 <p>Thanks for the comment, Larry. This is pretty much along the lines of postings that I intend to make here. Our choice of candidate is not my focus, but the way people relate to one another because of their choices. Is it American to riot when the majority out-votes us? Certainly not, but some people feel entitled to denigrate others before the vote and to destroy other people's property afterward. I'm glad you and your neighbor are civil with one another, just like Governor Arnold and his wife are going to vote for two different people, cancel out their votes, and still sleep in the same bed at the end of the day. That's America.</p> <p>Regarding Barack Obama's birth certificate, that's another distraction, just like questions about religion and questions about how far Russia is from the Alaskan coast. Read all about an independent groups effort to find and verify the documents here:<br /><a href="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/" rel="nofollow">http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/</a><br />It's a trusted agency that concludes that Obama was born in Hawaii. Conspiracy theorists need to look elsewhere - or rather, debate on the topics that matter.</p> <p>Now let's move forward and discuss what the next president will do for this country rather than hunting witches and warlocks.</p> Thanks for the comment, Larry. This is pretty much along the lines of postings that I intend to make here. Our choice of candidate is not my focus, but the way people relate to one another because of their choices. Is it American to riot when the majority out-votes us? Certainly not, but some people feel entitled to denigrate others before the vote and to destroy other people’s property afterward. I’m glad you and your neighbor are civil with one another, just like Governor Arnold and his wife are going to vote for two different people, cancel out their votes, and still sleep in the same bed at the end of the day. That’s America.

Regarding Barack Obama’s birth certificate, that’s another distraction, just like questions about religion and questions about how far Russia is from the Alaskan coast. Read all about an independent groups effort to find and verify the documents here:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/
It’s a trusted agency that concludes that Obama was born in Hawaii. Conspiracy theorists need to look elsewhere – or rather, debate on the topics that matter.

Now let’s move forward and discuss what the next president will do for this country rather than hunting witches and warlocks.

]]> By: Homer http://nebula-rnd.com/blog/cosmos/earth/2008/10/rhetoric1.html/comment-page-1#comment-298 Homer Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:33:59 +0000 http://Nebula-RnD.com/blog/cosmos/earth/2008/10/rhetoric1.html#comment-298 In recent years I have understood that the folks in Washington, of either party are not like the folks back at home.  For years my next door neighbor was a school teacher who later moved up the chain of command to become a principal and I believe an assistant superintendent.  I don't think he and I ever would vote on the side of anything on a ballot.  He is a liberal and I am a conservative.  When my back fence blew down in a storm he was the first person there to help.  When he had a problem, I was always there to help.We seldom talked politics, except to perhaps point out the way we were going to cancel each other out.  Neither felt the need to call the other a bigot or racist or any of the other attack demeaning names.  It just was not done.  Attacks were reserved for the folks running for office.In recent years, I've noticed that the a lot of 'supporters' of a given politician take great delight in digging up dirt on someone who dares to make a comment about their beloved candidate.  Take for instance Joe the Plumber who cared to criticize Obama's tax cut plan.  I now know more about Joe the Plumber than I ever wanted to.  None of it changes my opinion of him.  I admire his guts for daring to challenge Obama to his face.  Vice Presidential Candidate Sarah Palin has also been attacked and none of it has changed my opinion of her.  I like her.  I like her ideas and her attitude and her opinions.  I like how she thinks.  That is my opinion and I am as entitled to my opinion of her as you or others are entitled to your opinions.  We used to be a civilized country.  I heard on the news today that there are likely to be riots if the wrong candidate wins.  I also heard that there might be riots if the right candidate wins.  Does this mean we're going to have riots?  I certainly hope not.I believe the news media is biased in favor of Barak Obama.  I wonder why they have not covered the lawsuit filed by a Hillary supporter alleging that Barak Obama is not a natural born citizen.  I'd like that to be investigated and to be put to rest one way or the other.  The Democrats should be allowed to put up for office anyone they want - as long as that person meets the qualifications as specified in the Constitution.  In California, Governor Arnold - (cannot spell his last name with looking it up) wants to run for President some day.  While I supported him for Governor, I can never support him for President since he is not qualified under the Constitution.  He's not a natural born American Citizen.This election cycle has lasted way too long.  I believe we should try to shorten it to less than one year in the future.  In recent years I have understood that the folks in Washington, of either party are not like the folks back at home.  For years my next door neighbor was a school teacher who later moved up the chain of command to become a principal and I believe an assistant superintendent.  I don’t think he and I ever would vote on the side of anything on a ballot.  He is a liberal and I am a conservative.  When my back fence blew down in a storm he was the first person there to help.  When he had a problem, I was always there to help.We seldom talked politics, except to perhaps point out the way we were going to cancel each other out.  Neither felt the need to call the other a bigot or racist or any of the other attack demeaning names.  It just was not done.  Attacks were reserved for the folks running for office.In recent years, I’ve noticed that the a lot of ‘supporters’ of a given politician take great delight in digging up dirt on someone who dares to make a comment about their beloved candidate.  Take for instance Joe the Plumber who cared to criticize Obama’s tax cut plan.  I now know more about Joe the Plumber than I ever wanted to.  None of it changes my opinion of him.  I admire his guts for daring to challenge Obama to his face.  Vice Presidential Candidate Sarah Palin has also been attacked and none of it has changed my opinion of her.  I like her.  I like her ideas and her attitude and her opinions.  I like how she thinks.  That is my opinion and I am as entitled to my opinion of her as you or others are entitled to your opinions.  We used to be a civilized country.  I heard on the news today that there are likely to be riots if the wrong candidate wins.  I also heard that there might be riots if the right candidate wins.  Does this mean we’re going to have riots?  I certainly hope not.I believe the news media is biased in favor of Barak Obama.  I wonder why they have not covered the lawsuit filed by a Hillary supporter alleging that Barak Obama is not a natural born citizen.  I’d like that to be investigated and to be put to rest one way or the other.  The Democrats should be allowed to put up for office anyone they want – as long as that person meets the qualifications as specified in the Constitution.  In California, Governor Arnold – (cannot spell his last name with looking it up) wants to run for President some day.  While I supported him for Governor, I can never support him for President since he is not qualified under the Constitution.  He’s not a natural born American Citizen.This election cycle has lasted way too long.  I believe we should try to shorten it to less than one year in the future. 

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